tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32569695.post6831070787765756833..comments2024-02-05T08:42:52.032+00:00Comments on Photo Utopia: Clumps and Chumps (or why film isn't binary)Photo–Smithhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14933432574703415143noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32569695.post-84362248457870681832013-09-25T08:21:13.118+00:002013-09-25T08:21:13.118+00:00Thanks for the brilliant post. I appreciate your g...Thanks for the brilliant post. I appreciate your great ideas and <br />knowledge you've shared to us. God Bless and keep on posting. Very <br />interesting topic.<br /><br />Also I'd liked to share with you on <a href="http://buildmylikes.org/followers/" rel="nofollow">how to get followers on instagram</a> and <a href="http://buildmylikes.org/video-likes/" rel="nofollow">gain instagram video likes</a>.<br /><br />Thanks.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09258676103987874652noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32569695.post-341133982857790632012-01-07T16:20:53.640+00:002012-01-07T16:20:53.640+00:00First of all I don't think of the eye as an &#...First of all I don't think of the eye as an 'extension of the brain' but rather a a peripheral device that converts light to chemical signals that the brain interprets.<br />Rather like digital camera sensors are analogue and then have to convert those to a digital signal that a CPU can process to construct an image.<br /><br />A better way to think of things is digital printing which is defined as having variable sized ink blots on a defined grid or same sized ink blots on a variable frequency–anything else in analoguePhoto–Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14933432574703415143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32569695.post-68511861267426848162012-01-06T23:07:46.111+00:002012-01-06T23:07:46.111+00:00a random observation from an ardent devotee--but n...a random observation from an ardent devotee--but newcomer to theory--of film...<br /><br />Regarding the retina in the eye as an 'extension' of the brain--all part of the visual process chain: is it not the case that the neurons of our central nervous system are either firing or not, i.e., are binary?<br /><br />Someone had referred to the human brain as "a waterlogged computer," i.e., a computer being binary-based, indeed. Please respond. I am a film lover playing devil's advocate, i.e., anticipating future arguments.<br /><br />Dean TaylorAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32569695.post-71043723706079512522010-12-21T12:28:33.033+00:002010-12-21T12:28:33.033+00:00Film also has a scattering of light effect, more s...Film also has a scattering of light effect, more scattering with thicker films, hence t-grains of the same surface area size can potentially be a bit sharper due to potentially being able to make a thinner film.Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12364116252909299136noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32569695.post-41234157178214451622008-11-02T20:50:00.000+00:002008-11-02T20:50:00.000+00:00Thank you GaryI may do more how and why articles o...Thank you Gary<BR/>I may do more how and why articles on film in the future.<BR/>MarkPhoto–Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14933432574703415143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32569695.post-54276325825901521122008-11-02T04:45:00.000+00:002008-11-02T04:45:00.000+00:00Thanks for the research. Nice to have theory to ex...Thanks for the research. Nice to have theory to explain actual results. Good workGaryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12527782977007754150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32569695.post-18826244021228570442008-10-28T15:05:00.000+00:002008-10-28T15:05:00.000+00:00you're welcome Peter.I just had to put the record ...you're welcome Peter.<BR/>I just had to put the record straight, so many were parroting the 'grain is binary' thing that i felt I needed to write an article debunking the LL pseudo science.<BR/>Glad you are enjoying film, and at the end of the day that's what is most important....<BR/>MarkPhoto–Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14933432574703415143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32569695.post-85568461234993736882008-10-28T13:52:00.000+00:002008-10-28T13:52:00.000+00:00Thank you for the research and the blog post. I'm...Thank you for the research and the blog post. I'm happy that I haven't left film.Peter Smythehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13681560156736720265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32569695.post-2012771469900354132008-10-24T23:36:00.000+00:002008-10-24T23:36:00.000+00:00NoonsI don't want to knock MR, just he sets himsel...Noons<BR/>I don't want to knock MR, just he sets himself up as an educator and he is very wrong in his assertion that film is binary.<BR/>This blog piece has taken me 18 months to research and write asking many imaging engineers for info and cross referencing each source with at least two others.<BR/>Why bother?<BR/>Well I have seem the MR article quoted as 'imaging science' by some people, it's dangerous that people like MR have such influence and trust that the urban myth of 'binary film' is born.<BR/>If the few people who do understand how film works keep quiet then the average Joe will have the 'clumps and chumps' as his only reference point, obviously 'The Theory of the Photographic Process' by Mees and James is not good bedtime reading (except for me in research)<BR/>Also the MR article is bullish and condescending, if it was just bad science with goodwill I could excuse it. But unfortunately he is putting down peoples valid arguments with his ignorance.<BR/>If you ever see anyone claim film is binary link them to this blog.<BR/>MarkPhoto–Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14933432574703415143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32569695.post-87012083588560520732008-10-24T22:20:00.000+00:002008-10-24T22:20:00.000+00:00Mr Reichman also claimed in writing to me, that "m...Mr Reichman also claimed in writing to me, that "more than a million people had downloaded" his 5dm2 "review". <BR/><BR/>Obviously, he is unable to discern the difference between a million downloads and a million people downloading. <BR/><BR/>Particularly when he stops anyone from saving the downloaded video: anyhone wanting to watch it twice counts as two "people", in his distorted logic.<BR/><BR/>I'm not at all surprised he doesn't have a clue what he's talking about when it comes to film...Noonshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07694829378563989648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32569695.post-73300088387671199782008-03-04T00:16:00.000+00:002008-03-04T00:16:00.000+00:00An interesting post. One thing to keep in mind, r...An interesting post. One thing to keep in mind, regarding articles about film-versus-digital resolution: They inevitably compare digital images to <I>scanned</I> film. Apples and oranges, really. Scanning of film is a great convenience, but it brings an entire extra technology into the loop.<BR/><BR/>The only conclusion such articles should reach is the comparison of their digital images to their scanned images. Unfortunately, most are written as if the answer provided is the entire (no pun intended) picture.Dave Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02381828263310074114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32569695.post-31139976076891142912007-10-27T20:23:00.000+00:002007-10-27T20:23:00.000+00:00wow, this is an useful resource! very interesting ...wow, this is an useful resource! very interesting articles.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32569695.post-36084513463521384052007-10-23T16:25:00.000+00:002007-10-23T16:25:00.000+00:00I am a member of flicker. There are some myths on ...I am a member of flicker. There are some myths on there regarding films.<BR/>I have heard some corkers.<BR/><BR/><BR/>The XPS is in the post from Germany to me.<BR/>The guy I am getting it from told me that at the end of this year all AGFA colour roll films will be out of date.<BR/>I got some Optima to.<BR/>I have a found a lab that will process C41 roll films for a very Good price my local pro lab charges £12/roll which is a bit expensive. I am going to shoot more colour roll films.<BR/>Enjoy your holidays.<BR/>CharlieCharlie Woodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08956283815806101477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32569695.post-32622627149120790302007-10-21T14:03:00.000+00:002007-10-21T14:03:00.000+00:00Charlie,What a great find, I wish I could do as mu...Charlie,<BR/>What a great find, I wish I could do as much B&W as I used to, but alas I have no enlarger at home, but can get to use a Devere if I need to.<BR/><BR/>I'd love to meet and chat about film and Yes I'll give you some cash for 20 Rolls 160 Agfa.<BR/><BR/>I'm on Holiday next week and plan to take the Pentax and my little Rollei 35.<BR/>I think I'm going to shoot some 400X and possibly some Adox 25<BR/><BR/>MarkPhoto–Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14933432574703415143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32569695.post-5328165518424540612007-10-21T11:29:00.000+00:002007-10-21T11:29:00.000+00:00What paper do you use.Well you are going to love t...What paper do you use.<BR/><BR/>Well you are going to love this. My local pro-lab stopped wet printing B&W about 2 months before I walked in the door. In short I bid them £5 a box for all there B&W papers and 50p a roll for all there fridged outdated B&W film.<BR/>I got mainly Agfa MCP and fibre paper Ilford multigrade RC and fibre. Kodak Polymax IIRC. The smallest sizes are 7x5 the largest is 10x12 (agfa)<BR/>I had to make two trips to the car due to the weight of paper He He.<BR/>Most of it is in my freezer<BR/>I have not had a great deal of experience of printing mainly due to the very poor enlarger I did have.<BR/>This thing used to drive me mad it was not a precision instrument.<BR/>There is money to be made taking portraits and printing onto proper photo paper.<BR/><BR/>The XPS 160 is dated 10/07 and is fridge stored and came direct from agfa. It is £60 for a box of 50 rolls plus 17 euro postage. I have some 35mm XPS 160 to.<BR/><BR/>If you want 20 rolls I can bring them down to you. I am going to visit Norwich in a few weeks.<BR/>I am going to get some as the price is good and this film will keep well if I freeze it down. Once the agfa colour films have gone that's it gone!<BR/>Is your Pentax 6x7 getting any use??<BR/><BR/>CharlieCharlie Woodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08956283815806101477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32569695.post-57794402821405683382007-10-20T22:00:00.000+00:002007-10-20T22:00:00.000+00:00Charlie this is a slightly contentious post, not j...Charlie this is a slightly contentious post, not just because the article I reference is such a poorly written nonsensical piece of rubbish, but because lots of people are quoting it as gospel. Film is not binary, I know it so do a few others including PE on APUG, this is a case of someone with little knowledge passing of lies as facts.<BR/>To see the original article google the title of my post.<BR/><BR/>I too long for the day that film settles into it's niche, and I'm also enjoying the cheap film/equipment that gives me such good results.<BR/><BR/>Well done on the Focomat, they are v good enlargers what paper do you use?<BR/><BR/>As for the 160 Agfa I truly loved that film, processed thousands of rolls (it smells like pear drops when you take off the backing) how much is it?<BR/>I don't use much colour neg, but may give you some cash for a small part 10-20 films.<BR/><BR/>Anyhow thanks for you comment-have fun!!Photo–Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14933432574703415143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32569695.post-41679112965256973962007-10-20T19:12:00.000+00:002007-10-20T19:12:00.000+00:00Hello MarkThis is interesting post. I have not yet...Hello Mark<BR/><BR/>This is interesting post. I have not yet had this argument yet.<BR/>Prints from medium format negatives speak for them selves.<BR/>I am "so glad that film is dead" because I just picked up a VGC Leitz focomat IC for £23 I have been improving my darkroom today.<BR/>Printing session imminent.<BR/>Do you want to go halfs on a 50pack of 120/XPS160?<BR/><BR/>CharlieCharlie Woodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08956283815806101477noreply@blogger.com